Find Valor Upgrades

Upgrading items with Valor is all about the math – which is Mr. Robot’s specialty. Here’s a few things that affect upgrading, and other things to consider for each ‘factoid.’ Mr. Robot takes all of these things into consideration with his advanced valor upgrading chip.

  • iLevel matters: items with higher iLevels get more stats when you upgrade. Also consider: a lower iLevel with your BEST stats on it might be a better upgrade candidate than a higher iLevel with crappy stats.
  • Slot matters: some item slots have a larger stat budget (like weapons) than other slots. Also consider: a higher iLevel waist (lower stat budget) might be a better upgrade than a lower iLevel head slot (which has a higher stat budget).
  • Gem sockets matter: Gem sockets are taken out of the stats budget. So if a pair of pants has 1 more gem slot than another pair of pants at the same iLevel, it has less raw stats on it. Upgrading the pants with less gem sockets will get you more stats. Also consider: an item with less sockets but bad stats might be worse than an item with more sockets. Also consider the socket bonus (and colors of each socket) which affect the total value of each item.
  • Trinket effects: upgrading RPPM trinkets will also increase their proc chance slightly.

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 Here’s how Mr. Robot helps you upgrade:

    • Rank items you own to find the biggest upgrades. This includes items you can buy with Valor as well as items you can upgrade with Valor.
    • Rank items to find the most cost effective option. This looks at the increase in your gear score compared to the amount of Valor it costs. “Bang for your Buck!” In my case, the chest from the Shado-Pan assault is the biggest upgrade, but one of the most cost ineffective options – upgrading my weapons with Valor is much more cost effective.
    • Rank all items that you own, not just what is equipped, if you upload your bag & bank data. You’ll need our in-game mod for that. You can do automatic uploads with our client program or manual uploads of the .lua file. If you’re using the mod, be sure to check out the Best in Bags feature too.
    • Crafted items that require Blood Spirits are included in this list, since you can buy Blood Spirits with Valor. The cost listed for those items is the total cost of buying all of the required Blood Spirits.

Using the Valor Upgrade Tool:

Here’s what all of the numbers mean for each item in the list:

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    Here’s an example of rankings for my character:

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By default, it is sorted by the largest improvement. With that view, here’s what’s going on with my character:

  • Line 1: This is a chest piece that I can buy with Valor from the Shado-Pan assault. It’s the biggest upgrade that I can get with Valor.
  • Line 2 & 4: Note that these are 2 different weapons. Since I’ve uploaded my bag & bank data, Mr. Robot knows I have 2 weapons to choose from. He’s ranked them both for me :)

Let’s look at the “Most Cost Effective” ranking:

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As you can see, upgrading my weapons is much more cost effective than buying the chest piece. The weapon gives me a score increase of 137 per 100 VP spent (or you can think of it as 1.37 per VP). The chest from the Shado-Pan assault, while my biggest upgrade, only gives me a score increase of 42 per 100 VP spent. So upgrading my weapon is 3x more cost effective.

The chest costs 2250 Valor to buy. Compared to the cost of upgrading each item twice (500 VP), I can fully upgrade 4 items for the cost of the ONE chest. Let’s see if it’s worth it:

  • Chest upgrade score: 964
  • Upgrading my best 4 items: MH (687), Trinket (220), Set Legs (208), Set Gloves (162) = 1277.

Upgrading 4 items wins, but it’s actually quite close. You can see how after my MH is upgraded, the other item scores don’t touch the score of buying the chest. Decisions, decisions!!!

More than just Valor

Try the other options in the “Find Upgrades” feature. There are a lot of fun things Mr. Robot can help you with. Remember, everyone gets a free trial of the premium features, and we NEVER ask for the credit card when using the free trial (that’s just not cool). If you like the features, you can upgrade for $12 / year. Nice and affordable. And as one user told me, “I appreciated the trial of the premium features and the no bullshit approach. Premium is like an amazing frosting on an already mind blowing cake.”

  • Lakh

    Having nothing but relative rankings for VP upgrades if you’re already at-or-close to hit/exp cap seems like it can be problematic?

    • zoopercat

      The idea behind relative ranking is that you’re changing that one piece of gear. Mr. Robot reoptimizes everything else when factoring in your upgrade. So he might reforge hit out of another item – that’s factored into relative scoring of each item. Does that help your concern, or is there an angle I misunderstood?

      • Lakh

        That is my basic concern, because it’s not working that way for me. I’ll post something up in the tech forum.

        • zoopercat

          Cool, I’ll keep an eye out for your post on the forums too. Thanks for following up, hearing from users always helps :)

  • Murillo

    Muito Bom !

  • Foulgar

    It’s times like this when I’m glad I paid for my AMR subscription.

    • zoopercat

      Yay! TY :)

  • BambiMinaj

    I’m not quite understanding why the optimizer would put my 535 head piece behind 27 other pieces of gear for an upgrade (haste/mastery secondaries, so no hijinks with the hit/exp cap), but it gives my 522 chest/gloves very high priority. Any thoughts?

    • zoopercat

      Can you give me your character name and realm so I can see what’s going on? Also, are you using default stat weights or custom (I’ll need to know that because it affects ranking)

      • BambiMinaj

        Bamboozlêd @ Illidan (alt code 0234) and i’m using the default stat weights.

        • zoopercat

          I think I know what happened. Did you have the Legendary Meta Gem excluded in the options menu? That will mess up the rankings since you have a LMG equipped. Here’s a profile I set up that allows for the LMG. You’ll see the helm is listed as the 3rd best upgrade. http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/ad5c2205-21a2-4698-97dc-67707d7aec03

          • BambiMinaj

            I didn’t realize that was a possibility! :) Thank you very much :)

          • zoopercat

            No problem. This actually made us work on a quick update. We are now going to do a ‘smart check’ – to see if someone has an LMG equipped, we’ll auto-set that filter for users to include the LMG :) We’re always trying to make it more user friendly, thanks for posting!

          • zoopercat

            The ‘smart check’ is now live. Thanks to you for bringing up the issue in the first place :)

  • Druiddread

    got to say since i subbed i have used to look up pugs , upgrade half my guilds gear , rank our entire guild based on there GS, and improve on our entire raid groups damage mitigation and heals :) thank you for makeing such an awsome help for us and dear god is it cheap best 2 dollars a month spent xD

    • zoopercat

      Thanks Druiddread :) It’s awesome to hear from happy users, as well as feedback on the price point. I know it’s common that premium services cost $50-60 a year, but we really wanted to make it affordable, so we put it at $12 per year :)

  • Rajai Hakki

    ok, dumb question, where do I upgrade my gear? I’m at the ethereals … reforge? no option to upgrade …

    • Rajai Hakki

      wait, i found the voidbinder. THANKYOU ASKMRROBOT!!!! I FRICKING LOVE YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE!@()*&^)(*&

      • zoopercat

        Mr. Robot <3's you too!

    • zoopercat

      Look for the ethereal to the far left, he’s in that room :)

  • Rajai Hakki

    zoopercat you are awesome!!!!!!

  • David Lewis

    Great tool! Only feature I can’t find is the ability to do “what if” scenarios. For example, if I am exalted with Shadow Pan Assault and want to see how purchasing either of the two shoulder pieces might affect my score, I can’t do that unless I purchase both and add to my inventory. The find upgrade feature does not provide these particular shoulder pieces because they are reputation-based.

    • zoopercat

      As long as you don’t have ‘restrict to reputations’ checked you should be able to see the shoulders in the upgrade finder. Then, if you click on them, you can equip it. Then see how your score changes :)

      • David Lewis

        Thank you zoopercat!

  • begone

    I want to find my upgrades in TOT hc but because I have items with valour levels it is a pain. Is there an option to look without having to decrease the item level by hand each time.

    • zoopercat

      I think I know what you’re asking: you don’t want to see ToT items that are already +8 upgraded, is that right? If so, there’s an option for this. When looking at the upgrade finder, you’ll see a few options on the top-right of the window. Make sure ‘match upgrade levels’ is unchecked.

      http://blog.askmrrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/FindUpgradeNew.png

  • Dianaprince

    now if only it would work with PvP gear

    • zoopercat

      You can’t upgrade the new PvP gear, only the old stuff. We have it working for the old stuff.

  • nswgelly

    I’ve tried the addon for the seven day trial, but it won’t let me log in, keeps coming back with an error and nothing in forums about it. So not bothering with the paid

    • zoopercat

      Can you tell me what the error is, or give me a screenshot? I can extend your free trial as well – we want you to be able to try it out! Email me your AMR user name (feedback at askmrrobot dot com) – I’ll need that to extend the free trial.

  • Kalboon

    Why doesn’t the load button work on my iPad any more? It hasn’t for a long time, no luck on my android either, and I can’t DL the app, says the link is broken lol

    • zoopercat

      You need to go to askmrrobot.com in your mobile browser. What happens when you press the load button? I’m wondering if you’re blocking the cookie we need to use. If you open your safari settings, you can add us to the whitelist, or even try turning private browsing OFF.

      Let me know if any of those ideas fixes it.

  • Tom

    i cannot pay because i don’t have a credit card, when does the paypal or ideal payment comes? Can’t wait

    • zoopercat

      Tom, glad you like the features enough to upgrade! We do actually have a paypal option. When you go back to the payment screen, you’ll see a credit card form. At the bottom of that form, look for a text link that says “Don’t have a credit card, click here for more payment options.” That brings you to paypal :)

  • lazarethrites

    absolutely love your Tools and icy-viens.com.your explanations are clear, concise and complete. I can’t imagine doing the simcrafting on my own anymore.

    you guys rock!