We’ve been working on adding in-game support to team looting. Our team tested it last night and it’s awesome. I’m opening it up for testing today and tomorrow before we release it to the public. If you’re interested, you can get the addon at the end of this post.
What it is:
It shows you how big of an upgrade the item is for each person on your team. Let’s everyone choose need, offspec, greed, and pass. It auto-rolls for everyone and let’s you assign loot or even DE it.
Your entire team needs to install the ultra-alpha version of our addon (I will give you this file to share). If 1 or 2 people don’t have it, that’s ok, but it’s more fun when everyone has it.
I need feedback!
Video / Audio recording: it would be ideal if you could record the looting process via video so I can see (and hear) how it worked out.
For people who want to test it out:
Disable original AMR addon: Ideally, anyone who installs this version should disable the regular version (if they have it). That way, if bugs occur, we can rule out any interference with the other version of the addon.
Reinitialize Best in Bags: If you use Best in Bags (which has been improved a wee bit). You must ‘re-initialize’ it because it’s a new addon (rather than an updated version of the original… that’s what you get when testing, ha). To do this, in game, with the addon installed: activate each of your specs at least once. Open your bags and bank once for 5 seconds or so. Then you can export BiB.
Turn auto-logging back on: since this is a new addon, you might have to redo settings, including turning auto-logging back on.
Team Optimzer:follow the instructions on the addon’s team optimizer tab. Let me know if anything is confusing.
For the first time ever, raiders can now get aggregated stats on raids to find out how they’re doing. Earlier we took a look at Gruul. Today we’re looking at Oregorger! The data is relatively new, so it will even out as more data comes in, but here’s the first look at how people performed.
Wipe Rate by iLevel
Is dying a lot getting your team down? We’re bringing you some hope – it’s hard for a LOT of teams, not just yours. It looks like teams who kill Gruul need about 5-7 more iLevels before they have the same success rate on Oregorger. For example, to have a 90% wipe rate or less, teams on Gruul had 655N / 671H. But to have a 90% wipe rate or less on Oregorger, teams had an iLevel of 665N / 677H. This doesn’t mean it’s impossible, just a bit harder.
You’re trying to end this phase fast, but do you know how well you stack up? Do you have to kill it faster or are you already doing well? The infographics will tell you. For example, my team had an average of 16 Hunger Drive stacks. Under the Hunger Drive section, you can also see who did the most damage to the ore crates.
The Avoidable Damage section will show you how well your team did at not getting rolled over. Me (Zoopercat), I am personally terrible at it. I’ll work on it, I promise!
Were your tanks doing a good job of mitigating Acid Torrent? I know our first few wipes consisted of everyone giving an opinion of how acid torrent worked! For those of you still struggling: acid torrent targets a player, and the boss turns to spray a cone of damage in the direction of that person. It does a lot of damage to the first person it hits, so your tank wants to run in front of it. And the damage dealt to the group of players in the cone is reduced based on the amount of damage your tank mitigated. Our tanks were working on it, mitigating about 2/3rds of them on average.
Want infographics for your own raid?
There’s even more data for Oregorger, I just have a quick overview. The infographics are fun. And they’re FREE. Uploading is easy.
For the first time ever, raiders can now get aggregated stats on raids to find out how they’re doing. Let’s start with Gruul! The data is relatively new, so it will even out as more data comes in, but here’s the first look at how people performed.
Wipe Rate by iLevel
Think you’re wiping a lot and your team is bad? That might not be the case – there are high wipe rates across the board. Click to make it bigger, so you don’t strain your human optical input devices. The wipe rate is the % of attempts that ended in a wipe. So if there were 1000 attempts at level 659 and 200 were kills, that would leave 800 wipes, or an 80% wipe rate.
Blackrock Foundry is here, and what does that mean?
A LOT OF WIPES!
And now that we have our fancy infographics, I know you don’t want purposeful deaths to count against you, right? Not a problem!
Our addon has a wipe command. You can press the button in the addon, or the more popular approach, macro /amr wipe to a button In the off chance you called a wipe too early, you can ‘unwipe’ the raid so damage is still counted. Yes it backtracks. No, it won’t rez your whole raid
If you want to be SUPER fancy, you can macro the wipe command to a raid warning too (so it announces it to the raid). You need to be a raid leader or assist for the raid warning to show up.
Raid Wipe Macro:
/rw Wipe! (or whatever you want this to say)
Get the right tools for Raid Logging:
Our addon - this records gear, talents and glyphs for EACH pull for everyone who has the addon in your raid. That way, when looking through the logs, you can see exactly what everyone had equipped. It also has the wipe command and auto-logging options.
When you’re done, click the big button to view your logs, or just load your character on our site and the logs will show on the right side.
Then check back Wednesday to see your infographics. Remember, we need at least a day to gather enough data to make the infographics meaningful. This is a one-time waiting period when new bosses come out.
Here’s a quick video about our infographics:
We’re making data available to us raiders that we’ve never had before. It puts everything in context – you think you are doing awesome or less-than-awesome on different mechanics… but do you REALLY know what’s good or not? Now you will! We aggregate a lot of data and bring it to life in the infographics.
We also tie in gear information, a unique feature we offer for all of our combat log data and infographics.It’s a pretty handy metric when comparing how you are performing. And long that note, we a history of your logs for nearly forever (for free), so you can see how you’re progressing over time
But we did really, really bad on avoidable damage while learning the fight. Honestly, we’re learning a fight, and so was everyone else raiding in warcraft Tuesday night. So I thought our avoidable damage would have been average-ish. NOPE! 14% of our damage taken was avoidable, compared to less than 1% for the top performing teams. And for me.. (Zoopercat)… I was at the top of the damage taken charts for Overhead Smash and Cave In.
We all focused on cleaning up our avoidable damage, and look what happened on our kill! We reduced it down to 2% of all damage taken was avoidable. AND I didn’t get hit by any of it!
You can click the ‘data’ tab at the top to get to more informaiton. And for those of you who LIKE digging through it (and don’t fall asleep like I do), we have all of the data you could ever want. Here’s a quick video tutorial on that data.
When you look through combat logs, does it feel like a time-sinking, soul-draining scavenger hunt for a magical piece of data? Or maybe you fell asleep looking at the data and relied on your raid team’s ‘combat log guy‘ to sift through the data and fill you in.
And in the next raid, when your team wipes, what happens? Are people getting yelled at, blamed for messing up mechanics or not doing enough DPS/Healing?
Mr. Robot is here to give you a big hug and send rainbows shooting out of your computer screen. He wants to make post-combat information fun. He wants to give you the context you haven’t had before. He wants to help you kill more bosses.
Even several Blizzard people are excited for the tool
Cory Stockton, Lead Game Designer at Blizzard
Russ Petersen, rewards system designer (items) at Blizzard
Is that mechanic really the cause of your raid wipes?
You know that mechanic you THINK you’re wiping on? Like that fire on Twin Ogron… and then people are called out, everyone feels bad, the mood deteriorates, and then the loot gods punish you with gold on your bonus rolls (they are all-knowing!). Do you REALLY know if that’s the cause of the wipes?
Every team struggles with avoidable damage, and your healers would love you more if you took LESS damage (and less of their precious, precious mana). Their love has conditions, you know! But how do you know what’s an acceptable level of avoidable damage? Surely they don’t expect you to get to ZERO!
Mr. Robot’s infographics show you how much avoidable damage each raider took, and how that compares to teams who’ve killed the boss. This finds a nice baseline, and average, of acceptable avoidable damage for each encounter.
Are you killing adds fast enough?
You want to kill the Brackenspore adds fast, but what is… “fast” ?! It isn’t really defined, is it.
Mr. Robot collects data from all successful kills and tells you what fast really is
Want even more data?
Each section has links to bring you to more data. And for those of you who LIKE digging through it (and don’t fall asleep like I do), we have all of the data you could ever want. Here’s a quick video tutorial on that data.
Blizzard did a bunch of class tuning and buffed haste across the board (by 10%). And that will all be live when the servers come up today (Jan 13). A LOT has changed. So stat weights will definitely be affected. We’re working on updating the weights, so stay tuned.
In the meantime, you can change your weights manually if you know what you want them to be. Click on the ‘edit weights’ button.
You can also share or import weights, right from the stat weight editor:
Mr. Robot asked me to find some fun humans to join his (8/10) heroic horderaid team.We’ll be heading to Mythic soon.
The casual-hardcore mythic-bound raid team
We’re a ‘hardcore-casual’ raid team. “WHAT?!” you ask? We only raid 2 days a week, but we’re very efficient with our raid times… fast wipe recovery, quality attempts, etc. And while members try to make it to every raid, real life happens… work meetings, anniversary dinners, beer pong. And that’s ok, that’s why we want a larger roster. So don’t shy away from this opportunity because you think “Mr. Robot must be a crazy hardcore raider, no way I could keep up.” Because that isn’t us, we are busy outside of Warcraft too! But at the same time, we want someone skilled enough, and geared enough to jump right into our heroic progression. Oh, and have some fun too!
Speaking of Fun!
Maybe I’m biased, but our raids are fun. We don’t yell, we don’t get snippy… it’s a game and everyone is here to have fun. We’re usually laughing at something or another :) But we do expect people to pay attention and learn, so time isn’t wasted.
The 25-man Roster
We want about a 22-24 person team so that when we get to Mythic, we have the right people for the job. We don’t want to have a 30 man team, because too many people would sit out. Once we get to mythic, we’ll rotate people in and out, assuming everyone is amazing. And if some people aren’t performing well enough, we’ll work with you to get up to par so you aren’t benched.
Who are we recruiting? DPS!
We are full on healers and tanks
We want, in priority order: 1 balance druid, 1 rogue, 1 death knight, 1 mage. And the 5th spot is open to another druid (feral or moonkin), warrior, or someone who’s just really awesome.
Here’s a link to our logs (look for the “Team Robot” label on the right).
Members of our raid team get a first look at all of our upcoming features for AskMrRobot.com. You are the guinea pigs first to test them out, even before alpha testers! And you can also influence feature decisions, since we all hang out on Mumble together during the raids, you have a captive audience with Mr. Robot’s developer (and me!).
How to apply:
Leave a comment with this info:
About yourself and a link to your character.
If you have a link to combat logs, that would also be very helpful. We want to make sure we pick the right people in case a server transfer is required.
Your Bnet tag so I can add you. You can also email that to feedback -at- askmrrobot dotz com, if you don’t want to post it in the comments. If you’re posting on a Monday or Tuesday, check back for comments from me, I might try to get you in the raid right away.
Why should you install Mr. Robot’s addon for Highmaul and upload logs? Because… COOL STUFF! Once we collect enough data from you and other smart, talented, beautiful players like you, Mr. Robot can do a LOT! Besides just buttering you up with compliments, he can tell you…
For each player:
Talents:The popularity of talents & glyphs from players in the 95% percentile for each boss. This helps you decide if you should talent switch for another boss.
Damage & gear: When looking at different gear sets, Mr. Robot can tell you what players in the 95th and 50th percentile are doing for DPS (for each boss!). So you can see what the best (and average) players are doing with various levels of gear.
Performance over time: For each boss, we can graph your performance over time (on successful kills).
For your team:
iLevel:We are tracking the average item level of each team and can tell you fun things with that. My favorite: what is the average iLevel of the worst 5% for each boss kill? These are the people barely scraping by, probably everyone but a hunter died who got the killing blow Anyway, this will give you the ‘gear check’ level of a boss, so you know where your team stands.
Team Composition: We can tell you if teams with extra shamans tend to have higher kill ratios, as an example.
DPS & HPS:We can correlate damage and healing to successful boss kills, so you can see how your team compares.
We will be able to find people just like you, who perform a bit better, and help you compare the logs. Instead of looking at the top 1% who have gear 30 iLevels higher, look at the top percent of people who have gear just like yours. AND we will auto-compare a lot of the data for you, so you don’t have to sift through logs.
All of these cool features require someone from your team uploading logs, and as many people as possible having the addon. The only way we get accurate gear, talent and glyph data on your character for EACH boss attempt, is if you have the addon installed. You don’t have to be the one logging the raids, just have it installed and enabled. As long as someone from your team is using the addon to log your raids, their addon will talk to your addon (behind the scenes, without disturbing you), and collect your gear, talent and glyph data.
2. If you don’t have the desktop program installed yet, you’ll see a big green install button. Click it! This is what our desktop program looks like.
3. Process your logs with our desktop program.You’ll see a nifty section that shows you who Mr. Robot collected gear, talent and glyph data for (and who he didn’t). That data is automatically collected for everyone who has our addon installed. They don’t need to do ANYTHING, other than have it installed.
For people who’s gear was collected, you will get a view like this on the combat logs:
This is only a preview of the basic parts of the combat logs. The fancy features will be coming as soon as we have enough data.
Mr. Robot is excited to help you find your pre-raid BiS gear! All you have to do is go to the BiS view, then edit the filters. Below is one example of pre-raid filters.
I’ll go through the filters, starting at the top left, and going down through each of the 4 columns.
Target Level:this affects things like the boss debuffs, like crit. Set it to +2 (5-man dungeon)
Raid Gear: uncheck both of these options
World Bosses:if you’re doing them, check those boxes.
Legendary Quest Progress: you can get the 680 ring without ever stepping foot in a raid. So it’s best to get that, pronto!
Default Item Enhancements:this tells Mr. Robot if you want him to assume extra gem sockets, etc. Note that starting with 5man heroics, you can start to get extra gem sockets, warforged gear and minor stats.
Apexis Crystal Items:check any of the boxes you are ready to afford
PvP Threshold:set this to none
Crafted Threshold: You can choose the level of crafted gear you have access to or can afford off the AH. Remember that you can upgrade the gear as well.
Mission Gear Threshold: missions start rewarding 615 gear when you (and/or your followers) reach level 100.These rewards can get higher, so as you start seeing those missions, you can adjust this option.
BoE gear: These are items you can buy off the AH. It is NOT restricted to items that drop out of Highmaul or Blackrock foundry (it’s just there for item level reference).
Thriftiness: up to you!
Min / Max Item level:no need to adjust these since the other filters will take care of it. But you can if you’d like.
Other Items: The heroic daily dungeon rewards decent gear if you’d like to check that box. The rewards you get are random.
Best in Bags:
As you are trying to get your BiS set ready, remember to use Best in Bags. Since you won’t likely get every piece on your pre-raid BiS before you start raiding, Mr. Robot will help you pick out the best items that you DO have