It’s Here: A Better Best-In-Bags

This has been updated! Please see this post.

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  1. This sounds great! There is one thing that concerns me:

    “If you lock an item, Mr. Robot isn’t allowed to change its gems, enchants or reforges for any reason. It’s just locked – plain and simple.”

    Please please please let gems, enchants, and reforges be locked separately. Or at least let reforges be separate. Reforging is inexpensive compared to regemming (usually, anyway) and it can be done in outdoor raids thanks to the reforge mount. I reforge for encounters all the time, and today I have to do a lot of insane things to get AMR to not regem my gear but still reforge it if needed. I can’t believe I’m the only one who does this…

    • We may add a ‘reforge only’ option in πŸ™‚ Since that is the case most people are trying to do! Would that cover what you want?

    • That’s exactly what I was thinking when i read about he changes too. I’ve been using the BiB for all 3 of my specs so I’m reforging till the cows come home. While I’m less likely to change enchants and gems for the occasional night when I need to tank I’ll reforge everything for sure. An option to lock the gems and enchants but still have robot dude calcluate my reforges for me would be brilliant.

      • Good news: we are working on a ‘reforge only’ option πŸ™‚ Your’e right that a quick reforge is easier and more affordable.

  2. I really like the look of the planned BiB & Dual Spec improvements. If I wasn’t already a premium user, those changes alone would probably tempt me into signing up.

  3. I’ve been trying to see where to upload my .lua file at under the new interface and can not find it. Without that I’m not able to look at best in bags.

    • Sorry about that! Look to the right of your character name. There are 3 links, refresh, import and install. Click the import button and choose the manual method.

  4. Still buggy but has potential. When attempting to use it, it still advises reforges and gem changes for primary gear (not a lot, but I did have to manually lock two items it wanted to change). If you get it working, it will be a great tool.

    • …additionally the gems it wanted to change, but could not due to me locking the item, remained in the shopping list.

    • Blueridge, I’m hoping to clarify a few things.
      1) Best in bags will select the best gear for your main spec first. It might change a few items if something in your bags is better.
      2) After finding BiB for your main spec, Mr. Robot finds the best off spec stuff. Keep in mind, he might use an item you previous had equipped on your main spec, but he might have replaced that item on your main spec, making it available for regemming on your offspec.

      Also, make sure you have the main/off option (in the blue box to the right of the primary/secondary tabs) set correctly.

      If this doesn’t clear it up and it still seems wrong, can you email me your askmrrobot.lua? Feedback at askmrrobot dott com.

  5. so… am i stupid or what? since the interface remake i cant find that damn “manage my bag/gear” button anymore … would be cool to find that somewhere again as a premium user

    • look to the right of your character name. There are 3 green buttons that control the Best in Bags now. If you are manually uploading the askmrrobot.lua file, click the import button.

  6. This all sounds great πŸ™‚ I really appreciate all the features you add!
    I was wondering if you are considering doing a challenge mode feature using this BiB 2 spec coding? Could be from the build style drop down – pve – pvp – cm.
    I play a frost mage in a primarily normal ToT (We did 3 heroics) guild. We have recently started doing CM’s and all I was doing is swapping my helm out for an old one with the old metagem. Then I got the IQ ring with a socket, so I was swapping it too.
    2 things happened that got me thinking about this. 1. Frost is scaling bad so I’m probably going to swap my main spec/optimization to fire 2. Lei Shen pants dropped and one of the raiders that I do cm’s with was furiously whispering me to take them! take them! Extra socket! zomg! CM BiS!! I didn’t realize that was a thing.
    I wonder if I’m not missing other easily obtained upgrades. Swapping 3+ pieces of gear starts to hit the point where I want to automate instead of clicking manually. I also wonder how much of a difference does it really make, objectively.
    I imagine using this feature to set – main spec fire pve – off spec frost cm and optimize that way, how cool would that be! I guess it’s possible to set that up myself with custom weights ^^ ouch! Your maths are superior to mine.
    Thanks for reading!

    • Cheryl, we really wanted to do challenge mode, really! But it suffers from a unique and complicated problem: the stat scaling is based on your final stats, not the stats for each piece of gear. This happens so Blizzard can preserver your hit rating (and possibly for other reasons).

      So the minute you do ONE reforge on ONE item, all of the other stats change, on every item. So you end up in these loops. It’s solvable, but it’s very complicated and likely wouldn’t be fast enough to run on our web servers without crashing them πŸ™

  7. I have my season 11 gear still and have been picking up new items in dungeons, however all my season 11 gear is still BiB. Surely the new gear if it were gemmed and enchanted would be better?

    • Are you looking for a PvE set? Make sure you have PvE weights selected in the drop down menu (found in blue, right under your name).

      • Yeah, pve is selected and what I’m looking for. It is like gear is being compared as is, my equipped gear is gemmed and enchanted and thus is better than the new ungemmed/enchanted gear

        • Are you using best in bags? I’m guessing so since you posted here. Mr. Robot assumes full optimizations when picking BiB. Also, try turning the ‘upgrade’ option to ‘always.’ You can find it in the lower right of the options menu.

          Lastly, if that doesn’t fix it, save what you’re looking at to a profile (green save button to the left of your name). Send me that, ALONG with the askmrrobot.lua file you are using. (Found in the WTF > account > account name > server > char > saved variables folder).

  8. I have two transmog sets, so mixing (moggable) items across specs can leave me looking a bit fashion challenged. Any chance you might add the ability make certain items “exclusive” to one set or the other, particularly helm/chest/hands/belt/legs/boots/possibly bracers?
    Great service btw, I’ve told all my guildies about it and they love y’all too!

    • Hmm. I see what you’re saying. And Mr. Robot definitely appreciates fashion, but can’t optimize for it. What you could do is this: while on the BiB tab, click an item slot. Select the item you want to equip instead and that will lock it in. However, it might not be the best option, but Mr. Robot will then choose other items around that one.

  9. So I purchased the premium after trying the one week free trial and I need to say you guys do an amazing job. Now, for the BiB I have a question. First of all I am using the desktop app and syncing all the items I have in my bags and updating my armory etc.

    Now I have 2 items in my bags lets say head and shoulders and mr robot tells me I need to use those to get an improvement. When I do that and gem and reforge as he wants I go ahead and update the bags, the armory etc and do again a search just to be sure he is not suggesting anything new.

    So this second time he wants me to put the items in my bags (head and shoulders) he previously told me to take off.

    I do it update all the information and now he tells me to put the 2 items again (head and shoulders) I just took off… Can you please tell me what is the correct way to use this feature.

    Thank you.

    • Horussmx, can you send me the askmrrobot.lua file you’re using, along with a saved profile (click the green save button to the left of your character name, copy the url it generates). Email it to feedback -at- askmrrobot dott com.

      A little background: you’ll notice when you optimize (not BiB, but just straight up optimize), you probably get the ‘guaranteed optimal’ message in the stats area. Mouse over that – you’ll see how many combinations of gems, enchants and reforges Mr. Robot had to go thru to find the single best optimization (usually trillions or quadrillions).

      Now, when you run Best in Bags – you’re adding several items per slot, which also need to be optimized when looking for BiB. So now you made those trillion options turn into bajillion. It’s too many options to guarantee the best combo of gear + gems/enchants/reforges.

      So, it’s possible that the items get swapped around if 2 BiB solutions are super close. Does that make sense?

      Here’s what I’d like to know: what is the BiB score for each BiB solution? Is one higher than the other? (The score is found under each green button). You can compare by taking your current gear (which is optimized based on the FIRST BiB solution, right?). And compare it to what the BiB says now. Let me know what those 2 numbers are.

      Also, thanks for upgrading, we do really appreciate it.

  10. Setting it to ‘never’ should do the same thing as having all of your items unequiped. That ‘never’ setting is for BiB only, it won’t affect other stuff.

  11. By the way, I have a question about how “best in bag” works …. I just got a 502 ilvl staff that can be upgraged to 510, which I swapped for the 510 (502+8) MH weapon (wand) and a 483 off-hand. AMR is saying go with the 2 separate weapons but I dont know if it is comparing to the 502 staff or the 510 staff that it could be when it does “best in bag” …. thoughts?

    • Never mind – if I had just read this page, I would have known the answer to this. Sorry!

    • It definitely compares 2H to 1H options πŸ™‚ It’s possible the 2 separate weapons have better stats, plus they can get the extra enchant on the OH (and depending on the weapon, perhaps the sha-touched gem too).

  12. BiB is a cracking idea but for some reason it keeps suggesting an item that I don’t have equipped and isn’t in any of my bags. I’ve checked/cleared my browser cache etc. but all to no avail?

    • Can you send me your askmrrobot.lua file (go to warcraft / wtf / account / account name / realm / character / saved variables. Send it to feedback -at- askmrrobot dott com.

      And be sure to tell me the item in question πŸ™‚

      Also, if you haven’t uploaded an updated version of the askmrrobot.lua file recently, you can try that too.

  13. Can you tell me if best in bags takes into account set bonuses? I have tried the feature out and it is suggesting removing gear that will cause me to lose my 2pc set bonus – yet when I click those individual slots those set bonus items are scoring 3000 points higher than the best in bag recommendation. Thanks.

    • BiB does account for set bonuses πŸ™‚ When you click the individual slots, while on the BiB view, those use an absolute scoring, as is (no re-gems or reforges).

      If you switch over the ‘my gear’ or ‘optimized’ and open a gear list: you can rank them as absolute (which chooses the best gem/reforge/enchant based on stat weights), or RELATIVE rank them.

      To see if BiB is right, you can equip the other pieces you think are better. To do that click on them in the gear list. You’ll see a gray dotted line around any locked item. You can then compare the BiB scores for each setup.

      Here’s more info on relative vs absolute: http://blog.askmrrobot.com/2013/02/gear-lists-relative-vs-absolute-ranking/

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