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WoW Classic Gear Optimization

Gear in WoW Classic can be a challenge, but we have several tools to help you out.

  • Best in Bags: find top-performing gear from all of the items in your bags (Classic tutorial)
  • Upgrade Finder: identifies the best places to find better gear (Classic tutorial)
  • Best in Slot: More than a static list, we offer a customizable tool that takes your talents and other preferences into account
  • Worst in Bags: identifies gear you no longer need to keep around, so you can vendor or disenchant it (Tutorial for retail but is the same for Classic)

If you’re new to our website, keep reading for an overview of each of the features, followed by links for the full tutorials.

It’s also worth checking out “Tips to optimize Classic like a pro” – even if you are familiar with our features already. All tanks, healers, Warriors, Mages, and Rogues should definitely read it, as you all have special handling in the Classic optimizer.

Best in Bags: what’s best for me now?

If you’re new to best in bags, it’s a bit like Best in Slot, but using gear that you currently own.

“Back in the day, I built several of the spreadsheets that floated around on Elitist Jerks. Over the years, as the tooling has improved for gearing recommendations (thanks to you all), I’ve become addicted to the Best in Bags functionality. I feel it can be extremely useful in classic – especially if the recommendations change based on player talent choices and chosen roles.”
– Response from our Classic survey

The Best in Bags tool looks at all of the items in your inventory and chooses a best set for you right now. It takes into account your race, talents, and any personal preferences you set.

Mr. Robot does this for all of your specs at once, favoring the best items for your primary spec then optimizing your off specs with the remaining items.

WoW Classic Best in Bags

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On the left is this player’s currently equipped gear. On the right are Mr. Robot’s suggestions:

  • Swap out the level 49 cloak for the level 52 which has better (and more) stats
  • Equip the level 52 gloves over the level 59 because the level 52 has better stats, including 9 Spell Power (the level 59 gloves have none). Not something us humans would have likely caught, but that’s what computers are good at.
  • The Riptide Shoes also have more Spell Power than the higher level ones.
  • A trinket swap is also suggested, but this probably comes down to a preference for a daily-use-case for this player.

Locking in your trinkets

Locking in an item turns the lock icon orange.

Speaking of personal preferences like trinkets, you can lock in any item and Mr. Robot will optimize around it. Click on any item in the list to select it and the lock icon will turn orange as shown above with Carrot on a Stick.

This player also probably doesn’t have enchants because they are still farming gear. Best in Bags can accommodate all sorts of personal preferences in the setup step. If this player doesn’t want enchants, they could set the “Enchant Quality” filter to None as shown below. Mr. Robot will keep any enchants you have (removing them would be silly), but he won’t add any new ones.

Enchant and Buff filters for Best in Bags

Once you are happy with your Best in Bags gear recommendations, you can export it to our addon. Get a more in-depth walkthrough for all of these features on Best in Bags tutorial for WoW Classic.

Important note: Warriors, rogues, mages, and all tanks and healer roles should read our Tips to optimize for Classic like a pro. Warriors are handled in a special way because you can tank in almost any ‘spec.’ All tanks get a ‘toughness’ control. Healers get special customizations as well. Rogues and mages are also a bit special.

Upgrade Finder: where can I find better gear?

The feature does exactly what you’re thinking: it tells you where to find upgrades around the vast world of Warcraft. You can search several sources from PvP rewards to crafted items to boss loot from dungeons and raids.

Find upgrades in WoW Classic

Upgrade finder – find best sources for gear upgrades

Below is an example of what results might look like for a search with Onyxia, Molten Core, and Blackwing Lair.

WoW Classic Raid Drops

Sample results gear upgrades from Onyxia, Molten Core, and Blackwing Lair

Get the full Upgrade Finder Tutorial.

WoW Classic Best in Slot Tool

You can find any number of BiS lists for Classic. We have one too, and it is completely customizable.

“Isn’t BiS simple though, there’s just one list?” Glad you asked – yes and no! Yes, a list can be mathematically determined. But what’s best changes as you deviate from the assumptions used to make a static list, for example:

  • What if you have off-meta talents?
  • What if you don’t have all of the raid buffs?
  • What fight length was used to determine the best items?
  • What is BiS for the current phase?

Below are the filters we let you set to generate a BiS list tailored to you. It also automatically takes your talents into account (which you can also change).

BiS list for WoW Classic

Customization options for your BiS list

As you can see, our Best in Slot list isn’t a static list, it’s a tool. Customize it how you want and Mr. Robot will tell you the best gear to get.

Worst in Bags: reclaim some space

Warcraft has added a lot of nice things to help us manage our inventory throughout the expansions. So going back to Classic Warcraft makes inventory management much more important.

Bag space is more limited in Classic. I need to know what works best so I can toss/sell/DE the rest. ”
-Response from our Classic survey

The Worst in Bags feature is here to help: Mr. Robot identifies items you don’t need so you can safely disenchant or vendor them.

You can customize the aggressiveness of this list with options like “guaranteed to be junk” which finds exact duplicates that you aren’t using, or “very likely junk” which looks for items that are lower iLevel and not ranking well.

Learn more on the Worst in Bags detailed writeup.

Get the AMR Classic Upgrade

You can start using AMR Classic with a free 1-week trial (no credit card required). If you like it, and we hope you do, you can upgrade with the $10 one-time Classic Upgrade payment.

 

Both Classic and Retail are covered by the same subscription ($12 a year, or $2 a month). So if you are already a subscriber, you just need to make the $10 one-time payment.

The Classic Upgrade lasts a lifetime. This means if you cancel your subscription, if you later re-subscribe, you still have access to Classic. You will not have to pay the $10 Classic Upgrade fee again. Below is a screenshot of how your account’s billing page would look if you had a monthly subscription and paid for the Classic Upgrade.

AMR WoW Classic Billing Page example

I wrote a blog post that talks about the process of making Classic and the decisions behind the pricing for those of you who are curious.

Tips for optimizing Classic like a pro

I wanted to share some tips for the Classic optimizer that will help you get the most use out of it. This isn’t a starter tutorial (you can find that here), it’s more about the nuances you’ll come across for different roles and specs.

Specs

Classic does not have explicit “specs” like retail WoW — you can pick whatever talents you want and play however you want with those talents. But we found that it is really convenient to keep the idea of a “spec” on the classic optimizer. Here’s how it works for Classic:

Detecting Spec

When you import a character from the addon, we inspect your talents to take a guess at which spec you are probably using. Most of the time this will work just fine, but maybe you are using an unusual build — no problem! Use the spec picker up by your character name and the “Import from Addon” button to change to the spec you want to optimize, and you’re good to go.

Talents

The first time you import your character, we’ll automatically populate your talents for you with that spec. After that, you’ll have to manually adjust your talents to be what you want them to be. This works exactly the same as the optimizer for retail WoW. We do it like this for a couple of reasons:

  1. You have the flexibility to pick any talents you want for whatever spec you want, e.g. you could pick Fury talents for your Protection warrior spec.
  2. The optimizer allows you to create multiple setups per spec. It is very common that you will want to save different talents with each setup. If we were to automatically overwrite your talents whenever you import… it would get very annoying very quickly.

So bottom line: keep your talents up to date on each of your setups! The optimizer adjusts for every talent in the game.

Spec Is Important

The spec you have chosen determines how the optimizer behaves. For example if you are a paladin, choosing Holy will optimize you as a healer, Protection as a tank, and Retribution as a damage dealer. It doesn’t matter what talents you pick — you could choose Holy spec and then select all Retribution talents… we’re still going to assume you are a healer. This approach gives you maximum flexibility to use any build that you want for any role.

Warriors are Snowflakes

WoW Classic Warrior IconWarriors in Classic are super special. For example, a lot of people like to tank while dual-wielding with a mostly Fury build. We can handle all of these builds through the use of spec and the toughness slider on the strategy picker (more about the toughness slider below).

  1. Arms spec: we will assume that you are using a 2-handed weapon exclusively.
  2. Fury spec: we will assume that you are either dual-wielding or using a 2-handed weapon, but not using a shield.
  3. Protection spec: we will assume that you are using a 1-hander and a shield.

Now that we know what kind of weapons you want to use, the toughness slider tells us how you want to play:

Classic Warrior Tanking

  1. Arms and Fury spec: if the toughness slider is all the way to the left (DPS), we assume you are a pure DPS; any other value we assume you are tanking
  2. Protection spec: we assume you are always tanking

Whether you are tanking or not has an impact on things like your chance to be parried and rage generation. The toughness slider controls how much emphasis you want on defensive vs. offensive gear. You can do really offensive or really defensive builds with any warrior spec.

Outlaw Rogues

WoW Classic Rogue IconIn WoW Classic they were called Combat rogues. But we left the labeling as Outlaw… because it sounds cooler.

Arcane Mages

WoW Classic Mage IconYeah so… not really a thing, but you can use the spec as you see fit. If you have the Improved Fireball talent, the optimizer will score/play like a fire mage. If you don’t, it will score/play like a frost mage.

Gearing Strategy Picker

The gearing strategy picker is the first option in the Best in Bags and Best in Slot feature, above your talents. This controls how the optimizer will behave for your character. At launch, there is only one strategy per spec. It is likely that this won’t change — we are going to focus more on customization options than creating multiple strategies. We think that makes more sense for how Classic plays.

There is one important option in the strategy picker though:

Toughness Slider

For tank specs and all Warrior specs, you will see a toughness slider under the strategy when you open the picker. You can use this to control how much you care about offense vs. defense.

Classic Warrior Tanking

This slider is completely relative — there is no “correct” place to put it. Move it up or down until you get a blend that you like. We default it to the toughest setting for tank specs, but that is not meant to be a suggestion. Please change it to what you prefer!

Healer Customization

Ranking gear for healers has always been tricky. For Classic we’re using an old but popular and effective approach: you tell us roughly what your spell usage breakdown looks like, then we choose gear for you that works well with that play style.

We have some reasonable defaults for each spec, but you should customize as you see fit! Your raid team may require that you play differently, or you may just prefer a different approach. To change your spell usage:

  1. Click on the “Customize” tab next to the Set Up tab for Best in Bags or Best in Slot, or click the Customize Strategy button below the Find Best in Bags or Find Best in Slot button in the Set Up step.
    Classic Wow Healer Customization
  2. Check Customize your healing spell breakdown (shown below)
  3. You will see a default set of rules. Remove them and add new ones as you see fit. Note that you can re-order the rules, but it has no impact on the optimization — it is purely for your own organizational purposes.

WoW Classic Healer Rules

Easy as that! Then optimize and see your gear suggestions change to match your spell breakdown.

Note that we have also included decurse spells in the list. If you tend to spend a lot of mana on decursing, add it to the list and that will be factored into the calculation.

Unusual Best in Slot

You will notice that our algorithms pick about 95% of the same gear as you’ll see on pretty much any Classic Best in Slot guide out there. But every now and again you’ll see a particular item that the optimizer seems to like more than what you are used to seeing.

Most people’s first reaction is that it must be a bug. Feel free to tell us about such cases and we’ll look into it! But let’s say that we look at it and there is no bug — the stats look correct, estimates of any special effects look correct, and so on. Now that begs the question:

If this mathematical formula picks 95% of the same gear as everyone else, but then picks this one item that is different… maybe that different item is better than everyone thinks? I know… blasphemy! There is no room for new thinking in Classic! But it would be kind of weird for a purely mathematical system to be selectively incorrect… you’d expect it to be systematically incorrect.

Anyway — just some food for thought. Let us know if any anomalies that you find on our forums, but also keep an open mind!

Ask Mr. Robot Classic process & pricing

For nearly a decade, we’ve offered premium features to help you gear up in Warcraft. Best in Bags was first launched with Cataclysm to help reforge your gear.  Even though we’d been personally playing the game since Vanilla, our site wasn’t around then, so we didn’t have anything to revive for Classic’s relaunch.

We also didn’t think there would be a need for a gear optimizer with Classic – everyone already played it, gear was simpler (or so we thought), and we figured there would be enough information for people to make decisions.

We were wrong.

“In Retail, AMR has been my go-to app for helping me optimize and prioritize gear. I would love to use it for Classic in the same capacity; while folks say the game systems are “simpler”, there are absolutely subtleties  best handled by programming.”

-Classic player

Shortly after Classic launched, it became clear that gear wasn’t as simple as it seemed and Best in Bags would actually be pretty darn handy. So we decided to make it for Classic.

Creating Classic AMR – the process

Our entire company is just 3 people: a developer (Yellowfive), a designer and theorycrafter (Swol), and me (Zoopercat), a researcher and data guru. We already work full-time on retail Warcraft, so supporting Classic was going to be a massive undertaking.

It seems easy to support Classic – just add in a few stats like Spirit and Hit, remove Azerite, change the talents, etc. It’s never that simple though, is it? Of course we already knew it wouldn’t be easy, but the devil is in the details.

For example, when you load your character, we need to know your ‘spec’ in order to apply the right optimization. Retail WoW has specs built right into the game, Classic does not. Instead, we have to infer your build for Classic by identifying key talent choices. Incorporating those assumptions into the optimizer wasn’t enough – what if someone builds differently than the standard builds? To accommodate everyone, we had to add a way to customize your ‘spec’ in the Classic optimizer.

Situations like this were so common that half way through creating Classic AMR, we ripped so much code apart that only the most basic building blocks from our Retail code were useful. It was like our remodel project required taking the house down to the studs.

But taking something down to the bare bones is often a good thing. Sure it took us way more time than we wanted, we cursed a little along the way (ok, a lot), but the end result is worth it.

Classic AMR pricing

As a consumer, I often wonder how companies come up with their pricing on products. Is the more expensive product worth it or just marketing hype? Is a product more expensive because it costs more to be climate-friendly? How much of the cost of this product goes into marketing and advertising?

At Ask Mr. Robot, we aren’t selling grass-fed beef or Gucci belts, our website is way more serious than that 😉 I thought it would be interesting to share how we price our premium features.

Our current subscription price

We launched premium in 2011 for $12 a year. That price has never changed and we’re proud of that. It has taken a lot of work over the years to keep the price low.

As a recent example, when Corruption was introduced in Patch 8.3, the number of combinations of gear in your bags exploded. It wouldn’t have been a problem if we could have just equipped all of the best items, but then you’d be at 150 Corruption. More combinations = more computing power = increased server costs.

In order to not pass that extra cost onto you, we had to get clever with our optimization algorithm and make it even faster. A faster algorithm means we could keep the computing power at a stable level and not increase costs.

This type of thing happens every expansion. That’s part of our job and your $12 subscription pays for our ongoing work.

Pricing for Classic AMR

Classic will have ongoing work as each phase is released, so our first instinct was to create a second subscription for Classic.

However, in a survey of over 2,000 Classic players, we found most of them were also playing Retail. With this information, separating the site into two subscriptions seemed less than ideal. Doubling the price didn’t seem right either – we don’t have double the ongoing work.

What we did have is a lot of up-front work from creating Classic AMR. That’s a one-time thing, so a one-time payment mades a lot of sense: a one-time Classic Upgrade payment.

We set the price at $10 because it’s our best guess at covering the cost of our work to create Classic AMR. It’s possible we go in-the-hole, but I hope not. It’s also possible we end up with extra money which will allow us to add more Classic features.

Meanwhile, the subscription price stays at $12 which covers both Retail and Classic.

Questions about how the payments work?

First, I’d like to point out that everyone gets a 1-week free trial for Classic (no credit card required). Once you decide to upgrade, here are some answers to questions that might come up:

  • Using Classic requires an active premium subscription and the $10 one-time Classic Upgrade payment. The active subscription can be annual, monthly, a guild sub, or a gift code that you redeemed.
  • The premium subscription can be purchased at the annual price of $12 a year, or you can pay monthly at $2 each month.
  • If you currently have a premium subscription, you just need to pay for the one-time Classic Upgrade of $10.
  • If you have no subscription, you will need to buy one (for either $12 a year, or $2 a month) and the $10 one-time Classic Upgrade.
    • If you buy the annual subscription, you will be charged $22 now ($12 + $10), and then only $12 next year for the annual subscription.
    • If you buy the monthly subscription, you will be charged $12 now ($2 + $10), and then only $2 next month for the monthly subscription.
  • Once you pay for the $10 Classic Upgrade, you get it forever. So even if you cancel and stop playing, when you come back and subscribe again, you will still have Classic access. You will NOT need to pay for the Classic Upgrade again.

Here’s a screenshot of what your account billing page would look like if you had a monthly subscription and paid for the Classic Upgrade.

AMR WoW Classic Billing Page example

AMR Classic WoW: Best in Bags

Best in Bags finds the best set of gear from items you already own, with the click of a button. Importing gear from the addon makes this process really easy and automatic.

Best in Bags will function nearly the same for Classic as it does for Retail. There are a few differences worth noting:

  • We auto-detect specs by guessing at them based on your talent choices (in retail, specs are defined in game). You can adjust your specs on AMR Classic if we guessed wrong.
  • Healers will enter spell usage on the setup portion of Best in Bags. In Classic, we use a spreadsheet approach since we aren’t simming healers in Classic.
  • Warriors are special snowflakes and all specs have a ‘toughness slider’ to tell Mr. Robot if you are tanking in that spec or not.

Tanks, healers, Warriors, Mages and Rogues should all read “Tips to optimize Classic like a pro,” since there’s special handling for all of these roles / specs.

Below is a starting tutorial for Best in Bags if you are not familiar with it (or want a refresher). We also have a post with extra tips & tricks to get the most out of the optimizer.

Best in Bags Tutorial

This tutorial is long because it gets into specifics. But I want you to keep one thing in mind: using Best in Bags is super simple and fast: you copy gear from the addon, paste it into the site, press a button, and get recommended gear.

The tutorial goes into specifics of making sure your spec and options are set up how you want them. After you do that, you won’t have to touch that again unless you want to change them.

I have a video to show this process – it’s from retail but the functionality is the same (only very minor UI differences for things like talents and filters).

Next up, I have a couple of screenshots of the UI with explanations on what they do and how to use them. Click for larger images (don’t strain your eyes!)

WoW Classic: Best in Bags Setup

WoW Classic - Best in Bags

Let’s jump into the specifics of each feature next.

Setup your spec

The first time you import your character from the addon (addon tutorial), we will auto-detect your spec based on your talents. Our guess at your spec is just that – a guess, based on your chosen talents. (In Retail WoW, we don’t have to guess because specs are built into the game).

If we guessed right, you are all set.

Classic WoW - Best in Bags one spec

If we guessed your spec wrong, you will want to change it. To do that, click on the correct spec at the top of the page and you will see a second spec added to your list. Then delete the old spec, as shown below.

Classic Best in bags - change spec

Multiple specs

You can set up multiple specs and Mr. Robot will optimize them all.

But there is one really, really, really important note: the order of the spec list matters (the list on the left side).

It’s important because the highest priority spec gets all of the best gear and enchants. Then leftover gear is used for the next most-important spec. Items can be shared between specs, but the enchants stay locked in with what’s best for the higher priority spec that is sharing it.

Classic Warcraft - BiB multiple specs

Choose your options

Next, pick your options.WoW Classic Best in Bags Options

Here’s an explanation of the different options you can select:

  • Enchant quality: Options: All, No Nexus Crystals, None. Select the option that fits your goals and budget. If you choose None, Mr. Robot won’t remove any enchants you already have, but he won’t put any on either.
  • Enchant Threshold: this determines if an enchant is added or swapped out to an item. In this example, it is saying, “If the DPS gain from adding (or changing) the enchant is 0.5% or greater, do it. Otherwise, it’s not worth my gold.”
  • Max on-use items: Options: No limit, 1, 2, 3, None. Sometimes you just don’t want more active buttons, and we get that. Set this to your liking. A few notes:
    • If you set this to 1 (for example) and Mr. Robot picks an on-use trinket that you don’t like. You can just lock in your favorite one, or exclude it from the list (see section on locking).
    • Exceeding your set-limit: let’s say you set your max-on-use limit to 1, but Mr. Robot picks two on-use trinkets. That will happen if you have no on-equip (non-use) trinkets to equip. It’s better than leaving the slot blank!
  • Fight length: This defaults to 90. A lot of people are killing bosses in 30 seconds. Set this to whatever your team is doing for most bosses.
  • Raid buffs: select the buffs that you get in your raids.
  • Consumables: select all of the consumables you use
  • Extra buffs: this includes things like Slipkiks Savvy and Warchiefs Blessing. If you’re using these, go ahead and select them.
  • Innervate (not shown): Healers will have a check box at the bottom if they receive innervate.

The various buffs (and innervate) that you select are all factored into optimizing your gear around the best stats. So be sure to customize it.

Best in Bags Results

Now that everything is setup how you like, you click the green “Find Best in Bags” button and get your results. They will look something like this:

Classic Best in Bags - Send to Addon Classic BiB Example

The currently equiped gear is on the left. The suggested changes are on the right. Notice changes are also crossed out on the left side, followed by a little green arrow to show you what to change it to.

Locking items and enchants

Sometimes, you just want to make sure Mr. Robot keeps your favorite trinket and works around that. No problem! He’s happy to oblige. This is where locking comes into play.

Classic BiB - locking items

Every lockable thing has a lock icon next to it. Click the lock icon to bring up a list of items or enchants. Choose the one you want and it will lock in. If something is locked, the icon turns orange. Click it again to unlock.

There might also be an item you never want picked. If this is the case you can exclude it by clicking on an item to open the item list (list shown below). Click the ‘no’ sign to the right of any item to exclude it.

Classic BiB exclude

Sending gear to the addon

After optimizing, you can send your gear to the addon. Click the green send-to-addon button below your Best in Bags results.

Classic Best in Bags - Send to Addon

When you export your setups to the addon, all of them get exported. You can equip your gear right from the addon. Once you equip one of the setups, our addon also creates a gear set in the in-game equipment manager.

What if a Best in Bags recommendation looks wrong?

There’s a difference between unexpected and incorrect. If Mr. Robot suggests an item that is 15 iLevels lower, there is a good chance he is correct, even though it is unexpected.

Since all of your gear is evaluated when trying to find a best gear set, an uncommon combination can be found, that us mere humans wouldn’t have even considered. This is one of the reasons this tool is so powerful. Below is an example with some unexpected, but correct, results.

WoW Classic Best in Bags

This player had no enchants, but lets ignore those for now as this was probably leveling and questing gear. But the gear suggestions are worth looking at for some unexpected results.

  • Swapping out the 49 cloak for the 52 Cape makes sense: it has more (and better) stats.
  • Removing the 59 gloves for the level 52 is unexpected, but correct. The level 59 gloves have no Spell Power, whereas the level 52 gloves have 9 Spell Power, which turns out to be a 0.5% damage increase.
  • The Riptide shoes are one iLevel lower than the other equipped shoes, but have 6 more Frost Spell Power and zero spirit, which ends up being a 0.4% increase in damage.
  • The trinket choices here are really a preference call, so this player could lock in the Carrot on a Stick for questing and leveling.

Note for Feral Druids: the iLevel 34 Manual Crowd Pummeler mace crushes other Feral Druid weapons. The on-use that increase your attack speed by 50% for 30 seconds is incredible. So if you see me recommending it over an iLevel 60 weapon (for example), I am doing so with good reason.

However, it is possible that a solution you get is incorrect (oooooh, don’t tell Mr. Robot I said that!). If you believe this to be the case, report it on our forums and we’ll get it fixed right away (bugs rarely last more than a day after being reported). How to report it:

  • Click the green HELP link above your Best in Bags results. Choose the support ticket option and post that on the forums.
  • Alternatively, you can grab the support ID in the help window and make a forum post or email us.

You should really read this next:

Tanks, healers, all Warrior specs, Rogues and Mages should read “Tips to optimize Classic like a pro,” as all of these roles and specs have special handling.

AMR Classic Upgrade Finder

The Upgrade finder for WoW Classic works just like the one for Retail.

This tool  gives  gear suggestions for any content you want to do. For example, Mr. Robot will give you advice on what bosses drop the best loot for you.

I have a super short video from Retail, but it still does a good job of showing you the different searches and filtering. The video has no sound (no, your speakers aren’t broken). If you don’t want to view the video, I have screenshots below, so keep reading.

How to setup the Upgrade search

First, you’ll need to pick the Best in Bags setup that you want to do the search for. This is required because Mr. Robot needs to know what setup you want to consider when evaluating gear.

Classic Upgrade Finder - setup

The screenshot above shows that Frost is selected. If I want to search for items for my Fire spec, I select one of those that I’ve set up. I also selected to find upgrades from Rep Vendors.

Classic Upgrade Finder - rep vendor

Search through the list with advanced filtering

You can also search through this list to narrow it down.

  • Search by stat or stats by typing the stat into the search box (ex: Spirit)
  • By slot (type Trinket or Legs into the search box.
  • Source (name of boss, for example)
  • Set: type set into the search box to find items from a set

AMR Classic Addon

There is no way for us to import your character from the Armory for WoW Classic. Our addon takes care of that for you.

How to load & update your Classic character:

It’s pretty simple, it just takes a quick copy & paste from the addon to the website.

1 – Get our Classic addon, titled AskMrRobotClassic. Don’t have it? Get it from Twitch.

2 – Open all of your bags and bank (you only need to do this one time after installing the addon). This lets the addon pick up all of the gear you own.

3 – Then open the Mr. Robot addon (click on the minimap icon or type /amr show). Go to the “Export” tab in the addon. Copy the text in the box on that screen.

SS_Addon_ExportTab

4 – Go to the Ask Mr. Robot Classic website. Click on your character’s name to open the character picker.  Paste the text in the addon section, as shown below.

WoW Classic Addon import

5 – After you paste it, your character automatically loads with all the right gear.

Get new gear? Update your character

Anytime you get new gear you can repeat step 3 and 4, where you copy the text-string from the addon and paste it into the site. No need to open your bags or bank again since Mr. Robot is tracking all of the new stuff you get.

Optimize & send the gear back to the addon

After Mr. Robot finds your Best in Bags, you can export the results back to the addon. That saves you the trouble of finding every item in your bags and equipping them manually.

1. After you run Best in Bags, click the green “Send to Addon” button under the gear list as shown below.

Classic Best in Bags - Send to Addon

2. A box opens on the website with text in it – copy that text.

3. Now you paste that text into the addon. To do that, go in-game and open the addon. Go to the Gear tab and click the orange Import button on the left side (shown by yellowy arrows in the picture below. A box pops up, paste the text-string from the website there.

Send gear to the warcraft in-game addon

That’s it – now you’ll have you gear in game. Once you equip it from the addon, it will also make a setup in your equipment manager (built into the game’s UI in the character window).

This process is the same for Worst in Bags, which lets you get rid of items you no longer need.

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How to Keep Up in 8.3

Dailies, assaults, visions, emissaries, islands, missions, dungeons, raids… dang dude, that’s a lot of stuff. So what do you really have to be doing to keep your character caught up and raid ready?

This little guide is not targeted at people who have time to play WoW for 4+ hours every day. This is targeted at the WoW player who wants to raid or do Mythic+ two or three times a week with their team, and that’s it! (Or maybe you want to play more, but life gets in the way.) We will also target this at players who aren’t interested in putting in a lot of time to get cosmetic rewards such as mounts. We’ll order it by activity, and do an analysis of the time vs. reward for each.

(There’s also an infographic summarizing everything at the end of the post).

This post was updated Jan 22 with the changes for amount of Coalescing Visions earned from Minor Horrific Visions (1500, up from 1000) and dailies (250 each, up from 50).

Assaults

Each week there is a “major” assault that you can do which gives you a cache that has a Vessel key in it for a Horrific vision.

You can also do two “minor” assaults. The minor assault resets on Tuesday and then again on Friday night, rewarding 5,500 Coalescing Visions each. The location will rotate between Uldum and the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, and will show up on your map.

These are worth doing. They don’t take very long, you don’t need to do them every day, and they essentially reward 2 keys (a key from the Major and a total of 11k Coalescing Visions from the minor).

Minor Visions

Each day, there is a “minor” horrific vision that you can do. The first week it was in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. It shows up on your map, and looks like a pillar with a quest-giver near it with a blue/daily quest to go inside and do a simple objective like kill enemies, rescue people, or close portals. You can do this once a day and it rewards 1000  1500 Coalescing Visions, 3000 for the first one each week.

These are worth doing. It usually takes less than 5 minutes.

Daily Quests

Uldum and the Vale of Eternal Blossoms have new daily quests tied to two new factions. These daily quests also reward 50 250 Coalescing Visions each and a good chunk of War Resources. If you do every daily quest for both zones every day, you’ll get around 14,000 Coalescing Visions per week, enough for an extra key.

You will also average around 3500 reputation with each faction per week if you do every assault and every daily quest. This means that it will take you roughly 5 weeks to reach revered with each faction. (Note that some people could certainly do it faster in calendar time, but it will require many hours of extra farming of the zones — out of the scope for the type of player we’re talking about in this guide.)

The only interesting rewards (in terms of raiding) for reaching revered are rank 3 of the essences Breath of the Dying, Spirit of Preservation, and Touch of the Everlasting.

A person who is pretty efficient about doing daily quests can finish them in around 20-30 minutes for each zone, depending on the quests that day. So plan around 40-60 minutes per day, or 4.5-7 hours per week. To put this in terms of rewards:

  1. 12-18 hours of total play to go from Rank 2 to Rank 3 of Breath of the Dying
  2. Another 12-18 hours of total play to go from Rank 2 to Rank 3 of Spirit of Preservation and Touch of the Everlasting
  3. 3-5 hours of total play to earn enough Coalescing Vision to do an extra Horrific Vision

Without doing these dailies, you can earn enough Coalescing Visions to do 3.3 Horrific Visions each week for a total of about 2.5 hours of play… so roughly 45 minutes of play to earn enough to do a vision via assaults and the very short “minor” vision quest… having to spend 3-5 hours to get another vision is not a great use of your time.

12-18 hours of total play time to upgrade an essence from Rank 2 to Rank 3 is also not a great use of your time. At best, you are looking at a 1-2% increase in DPS or tanking/healing performance, given that you will have other good Rank 3 essence alternatives.

Dailies are not worth doing. It’s that simple — just skip them entirely if you don’t feel like doing them! You will be able to keep up just fine without them.

Other Stuff

Some other activities are still worth your time:

  1. Emissary quests that reward artifact power
  2. Emissary quests that reward gear that is an upgrade, or a higher item level than something you already have
  3. The weekly island quest for artifact power and the extra table mission
  4. Heroic Darkshore warfront — do it once for the quest each time it is available
  5. Table missions
  6. New world bosses (available as of Jan 21st)

Any other emissary or world quests are not a good use of time. Doing islands other than for the weekly reward is also a bad use of your time.

This is a lot of stuff… so if you want to save more of your time, skip islands entirely, and skip any emissary quest that is not artifact power.

Horrific Visions

These are important and you should do them!

This is a new activity in 8.3, can’t miss them if you do the main story quests. There has been quite a bit of “stress” about these after the first week because the number of times you can attempt them is limited by how many Coalescing Visions you get. If you fail, you don’t get any reward, and you just wasted 10,000 of your Coalescing Visions. But as of January 22nd, Blizzard increased the amount of CV you earn from various activities so failing isn’t nearly as punishing.

If you do the activities above without dailies, you will end up with essentially 33,000 Coalescing Visions per week (23k from activities and 1 key from the major assault). That’s 3 keys a week and that feels much more flexible. If you fail a key, you can now farm dailies for the week to earn a key back.

Horrific Visions have the following rewards:

Legendary Cloak Upgrades

Wrathion gives you quests to upgrade your legendary cloak. This is important! It is the only way to increase your corruption resistance, which is very important for increasing your power this patch. Each quest will tell you what to do in the Horrific Vision.

  • Rank 1-5 only require that you kill the main boss in the center area (Thrall or Alleria).
  • Rank 6-11 require that you clear objectives in the “corrupted” areas around the center (the tooltip on the map labels them as such).
  • Rank 12-15 require that you clear objectives in the “lost” areas around the center (the tooltip on the map labels them as such).

You can only reach Rank 6 up until Jan 21st (when the raid starts). After that, you will be able to increase your cloak one rank each week, up to Rank 15. This is why you don’t need to worry too much if you failed once or twice: you’ll be able to do more Horrific Visions than are required to rank up your cloak.

Gear

Gear drops from the chests at the end of a Horrific Vision. You get better gear for completing more objectives, and eventually doing the Horrific Vision with “masks” activated. For the target audience of this guide (someone who wants to raid), the gear is not worth worrying about until you can clear all 5 objectives. That will drop ilvl445 gear. After that, each Faceless Mask activated will increase gear rewards by 5 item levels.

Blizzard posted all of the gear levels on their forum in this post: Horrific Visions Rewards.

Essence Upgrades

You get items to upgrade Spark of Inspiration, Unwavering Ward, and Strength of the Warden in Horrific Visions. You’ll get rank 2 pretty quickly without worrying about it, but rank 3 will take a bit longer. If you can full-clear all 5 objectives, you can get to rank 3 faster.

Optimal Use of Coalescing Visions

The number of Horrific Visions you can run each week is extremely limited, so you want to make the best use of them to upgrade your cloak.

Rule 1: never* run a Horrific Vision unless you have a quest to upgrade your cloak, or you would waste Coalescing Visions. Bank your Coalescing Visions for the following week instead. (To bank more than the Coalescing Visions currency cap, purchase the item to open a Horrific Vision, you can hold up to 5 of them in your inventory.

*Since Blizzard increased the amount of Coalescing Visions you can earn from the daily Horrific Vision (1500, up from 1000) and dailies (250 each, up from 50), you can now earn enough to get spare keys. This allows you to do extra runs for Mementos or Gear.

Rule 2: never use a mask unless you are 100% confident that you can complete the objectives needed for your cloak quests.

Next, you want to ensure maximum progress when you do run a Horrific Vision:

  • Rank 2-5 you should not leave the center area, just kill the boss (Thrall or Alleria) and be done
  • Rank 6-11 you should clear both Corrupted Areas, you still make progress even if you don’t kill the main boss!
  • Rank 12+ doesn’t have as much data out there, but likely you should go for the 2 Lost Areas first to ensure maximum progress

Projected progress for Cloak upgrades

If you are doing only the time-efficient activities suggested above, you would earn 23k Coalescing Visions each week plus 1 key from the Major Assault. Here is what “perfect” progress would look like in terms of the runs required to max your Cloak’s rank for the week, the rank of your cloak, and the remaining resources.

(see infographic below for a nice chart of this data)

  • Week 1:  5 runs to get to Rank 6 with 0 resources leftover (in reality, you would likely have a bit extra from looting rares, chests, etc).
  • Week 2:  1 run to get to Rank 7 with 13k CV  leftover + 1 key
  • Week 3: 1 run, Rank 8 with 16k CV + 3 keys (after converting 10k CV to a key to avoid capping CV)
  • Week 4: 2 runs, Rank 9 with 19k CV + 4 keys
  • Week 5: 3 runs, Rank 10, 12k CV + 5 keys
  • Week 6: 4 runs, Rank 11, 5k CV + 5 keys
  • Week 7: 1 run, Rank 12, 18k CV + 6 keys (use a spare key this week)
  • Week 8: 3 runs, Rank 13, 21k CV + 5 keys (speculating you can only get 2 of the quest item per run for this rank and higher… but not sure)
  • Week 9: 6 runs, Rank 14, 4k CV + 4 keys
  • Week 10: 7 runs, Rank 14, 7k + 0 keys (not enough to complete it this week, but if you did dailies just this week, you would have enough for 2 more runs)
  • Week 11: 2 runs, Rank 15, 10k CV + 1 key

Horrific Visions infographic

This is a lot of data and to make it a bit more fun to read, we put together an infographic (click for full size).

Horrific Visions Farm Coalescing Visions Infographic Guide

8.3 Corrupted Gear: How it Works & What to Wear

If you are wondering how Corrupted Gear works, the first section explains it. If you’re already familiar, you can skip the first section and get into the details of how Mr. Robot helps you pick the best corruption items.

How corrupted gear works:

Item drops in 8.3 have a chance to be Corrupted with a random bonus effect. For example, you might get an increase to Crit as shown below in purple.

Continue reading

Optimizer Customization Tutorial

Best in Bags and all of the other gear-advice on our site is based on simulations and a lot of math. This comes up with ‘right’ answer, mathematically. But that doesn’t account for our human likes, dislikes, and specific scenarios that we might want to gear for. A while back we released some extra features that let you customize the results. Everyone really liked it, so we’ve expanded on it even more. Yellowfive (our developer) took some time to explain the newest customization features for you.

-Zoopercat

General Approach

The general idea when customizing is this: you tell us the couple of really important things that you want to customize, and we’ll fill in the rest based on our gearing strategies.

Best in Bags and Best in Slot have a “Setup” tab on which you start. This hasn’t changed — you specify the “high level” things here, such as which general Gearing Strategy you want to use, which talents and major essence you prefer, and a handful of common options. Then we have added a second “Customize” tab. You can go to this by clicking on the tab itself, or pressing “Customize Strategy” below the “Find Best in Bags” or “Find Best in Slot” button.

This new Customize tab has a whole bunch of new options, all of which are disabled by default. You can turn on/off whichever settings interest you. The rest of this post will describe each setting in detail.

Secondary Stats

One of the most common things that people want to change is which secondary stats they prefer: Critical Strike, Haste, Mastery, or Versatility. Our optimizer uses a lot of math and statistics to choose a good balance of these four stats, but in reality, there are many different allocations that work nearly as well. Now you can easily experiment with any combination.

When enabled, you will see a pie chart of the four secondary stats. You can drag the ends of the dividers between the pie slices to change how much is allocated to each stat.

Stat distribution weights for World of Warcraft, BFA

The pie shows you a typical amount of secondary stats that you would have on high level gear. You then tell us, if you had that many secondary stats available to you, how much you would allocate to each stat. A few notes:

  1. You are essentially defining a “ratio” of stats — if you have much lower item level gear than this, we will scale it down for you, and keep the relative amounts the same.
  2. The dividers move in 1% increments.
  3. You cannot allocate less than 5% of the total to any single stat. Practically speaking, it is really hard to end up with less than this in any given stat due to how the game puts stats on gear (almost every item has two secondary stats on it).
  4. It follows that you cannot allocate more than 85% of the total to any single stat. Same idea — this “restriction” doesn’t limit your ability to customize, instead it protects you from choosing impossible stat combinations.

This is not a “rating perfect” allocation!

By this we mean that you are not saying “get me exactly 1437 Critical Strike rating and 833 Haste Rating.” That’s not how it works, and that’s not the best way to think about stats. Instead think of this as a rough “target” for your stats. We’ll try to get you as close to this target as possible, and use our own statistical models to resolve any “tie breakers”. Depending on the gear available to you, a little trial and error may be required to get things how you like them.

Minor Stats

Minor stats are Avoidance, Leech, and Movement Speed. The main source of these stats on gear is as a bonus stat on items that can be Warforged. We let you customize how valuable each of these stats are to you by telling us roughly how many “item levels” that stat is worth to you. This is best explained via an example:

Minor stats iLevel tradeoff in Battle for Azeroth

Say you have a pair of ilvl430 Guantlets of the Mega-Puncher, no minor stats or socket on it. Then you get a second pair of ilvl425 Gauntlets of the Mega-Puncher but they have Avoidance on them. Which is better? If you think the ones with Avoidance are better, set the Avoidance slider to +6 or higher. If you think the higher item level ones without Avoidance are better, set the Avoidance slider to +4 or lower. If you think they are worth the same, set it to +5.

You can also go all the way to zero to make a minor stat worth nothing to you. The max value is +10 — anything above that would be highly improbable.

As with secondary stats, some trial and error may be required to find settings that do what you like. There are a lot of calculations going on under the hood that will add a bit of “fuzz” to these minor stat options.

Gems and Enchants

These are some fairly self-explanatory options to give you stricter control over how gems and enchants are chosen.

Customize Gem and Enchant Rules

You can force the optimizer to always use Critical Strike gems, or always use jewelcrafter gems regardless of how we think they score compared to regular gems, and so on.

Important note: the gem and enchant “threshold” option on the setup step is automatically disabled if you use any of these custom gem and enchant rules. The threshold is incompatible with these options for various technical and logical reasons.

Gem and Enchant disabled

Azerite Powers

This section gives you complete control over picking different combinations of Azerite Powers. It is a priority list of rules that you want the optimizer to follow. There are three types of rules that you can make:

  1. As many as possible: stack as many of this power as possible (the most you can get is 3, one on each slot)
  2. Exactly one: get exactly one of this power, no more, no less
  3. Zero: never pick this power under any circumstance

Custom Azerite Trait rules

With “as many as possible” and “exactly one” type rules, you also specify how many item levels you are willing to sacrifice to get that power. For example, if your highest item level azerite item in your Head slot is ilvl 445, but you would rather use an ilvl 430 item with your preferred power, then you are willing to sacrifice up to 15 item levels to get that power.

The optimizer will start at the top of your list of rules and work down, trying to meet each rule as it goes. Meeting any higher priority rule is always more important than meeting any number of lower priority rules. For example, if it is possible to meet your first rule only with one setup, or your second and third rule with another, the setup that meets the first rule will always win.

“Zero” rules (excluding azerite powers) can go anywhere in the list — we recommend putting all your exclusions at the bottom of the list to keep things organized. These rules will always be met no matter what.

Special note: The Upgrade Finder won’t take these custom rules into account. Setting a custom rule doesn’t assign a numeric value, which is necessary for ranking items in the upgrade finder. Instead, we suggest that you use the search box filter on the upgrade finder to search for items with your preferred Azerite Powers.

Special Items

This section lets you control the value of special effects on trinkets and other items. When you enable this section, a list of special items will load. Initially every item is disabled, and we show you roughly what our gearing strategies think each special effect is worth.

It is worth noting that the specific ranks and values we show as our defailts in that list are not the final ones used to rank your gear when we do Best in Bags. We use simulation data specific to each gear combination to do our final gear suggestion. This list shows just one of those data point sets.

When you adjust the value, you are essentially overriding the simulation value of specific special effects that you like more or less than our default strategies, and letting our default strategy handle everything else.

Trinket Rankings - BfA simulations override

How to use this feature:

  • To customize the value of an item, check the box to the left of it, enter a new value in the textbox at the right, then press enter. The list will re-order based on your new value. If you increased the value, it will show a green bar (like Zoatroid Egg Sac in the screenshot). If you decreased the value, it will show a red bar (like Trident of Deep Ocean in the screenshot).
  • You can uncheck the box on the left to reset the value to the default based on simulations.
  • You can filter the list with the search box right above the list, with the same filter options found on the rest of the site, including:
    • Source: Filter by zone, boss name, etc
    • Stat: filter by a specific stat
  • You can also type ‘custom’ (no quotation marks) into the search box to filter down to items that have your customized values.

Ranking special item effects is very difficult… you should be aware of a couple things when using this feature:

You are ranking only the special effect

The value that you enter is not for the entire item including its stats, it is only for the special effect(s) on the item. For example, say a trinket has +500 strength, and on equip: gives you 1000 crit for 20 sec, 1 rppm. You are ranking only the 1000 crit proc effect. Do not include the value of the 500 strength.

You are ranking the effect at a specific item level

We show each item only once in the list, at a common but high item level that you might see it drop. Rank the special effect appropriately for that item level. We will automatically scale your custom ranking up or down to higher or lower item level versions of the item. Most special effects in the game scale predictably with item level, especially over small item level differences.

Additional Notes

As with some of the other settings, some trial and error may be necessary to get things ranking how you like. This is not a “perfect” ranking — e.g. if you say a special effect is worth 2.13% of your total score whereas our default thinks it is worth 1.01%, you won’t necessarily see exactly a 1.12% increase in score (assuming nothing else changes). It will be close to that, but there are a lot of things going on under the hood that are beyond the scope of this article to explain.

It is better to think of this as a “relative” ranking — increase the value of something that you want the optimizer to favor until it does so. If that means setting it 0.5% higher than you think you “need to” that is fine. The goal here is to get the optimization that you want, not find some magical combination of numbers.

There are a few special effects that you cannot override, notably the Mechagon logic loop and bit band combos, and the punchcards. Sorry… those are just too complicated to handle, and we have very solid rankings for those already. It is very doubtful that you would need to change them.

Lock and exclude specific items

Once you click the “Find Best in Bags” button, you will see the results screen, like the one below.

Best in Bags - Find your best gear

 

From the results screen, you can do a couple further customizations. These aren’t new, but worth pointing out in this blog post since it’s all about customization.

Locking items, Gems, Enchants, and Azerite Powers

Any item (or gem, etc) suggestion can be overridden by clicking on the suggested result.

Lock and exclude gear, gems, enchants, and azerite powers

For example, click on the Logic Loop of Recursion ring to bring up the list of items that I own. Then choose another ring, Thornwoven Band for this example, and it will lock in. This is indicated by the orange lock icon next to the item in the results view.

Items can also be excluded, which is handy if you just don’t like a specific item. In the item list, click the ‘no’ symbol to the right to exclude it.

After you make these customizations, click the green “Re-Optimize” button below the results to get a new set of results that follow your rules. You can also clear all exclusions and unlock everything with additional buttons below the results view.

Thanks Yellowfive, now a message from Zoopercat

I added screenshots to Yellowfive’s tutorial. If anything is unclear or you want more visuals, let me know on the forums. Any further questions or feedback can be directed there as well. (I also encourage leaving happy notes, as Mr. Robot and our 3-human team gain Stamina from positive feedback).

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